Small porch I just completed. Taped flagstone....
Enjoy....if you so desire.
Kurt
k2 Concrete Resurfacing
Enjoy....if you so desire.
Kurt
k2 Concrete Resurfacing
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Troweled Flagstone
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Posts: 237 06/14/08 05:42 PM |
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stangguy94 |
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Posts: 19 06/14/08 05:57 PM |
Man, that looks great. What colors did you use? did you use HS to color with?
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Posts: 1 06/15/08 05:02 AM |
Looks Awesome!! How did you tape the grout lines? Was it a stencil? Or did you use tape?
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westtexfireman |
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Posts: 46 06/15/08 08:32 AM |
Man that looks great.....i was wondering if you would share your taping technique with us........how do you get those flowing non-linear lines in your tape
down ......any inf shared would really help out.........thanks
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Posts: 238 06/15/08 08:45 AM |
Colors are just ultrastone. Light dilutions. I think it was 12-1 Chocolate, 8-1 Palamino, 8-1 Desert Beige, and the Orange color is actually 4 part Terra
Cotta and 2 parts SYPP yellow, then diluted down 8-1. Then I used a 15-1 highlight of Chocolate sprayed over everything.
Grout lines are taped, special patented technique, I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.... |
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Posts: 283 06/15/08 08:48 AM |
looks awesome, kurt !
how long did this job take ? tr |
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Posts: 31 06/15/08 10:15 AM |
KKAL my bet for how you did your tape was to use wide based taped, layout it all out, then take a razor blade and carve out pieces of tape to give the
irregular grout line.
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KKAL1 |
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Posts: 239 06/15/08 10:16 AM |
Trip -
Job took 4 days: Day 1: Pressure wash, acid etch, nuetralize, pressure wash, apply skim coat- let dry, apply mortar coat - go home. Day 2: Cut tape and tape off pattern, lock in tape. Day 3: Apply trowel coat, let dry, pull tape Day 4: Stain, highlight, seal. Taping on these jobs takes a lot of time and is a pain in the butt. The final result is nice, but you might as well add a day to the job for the special taping. |
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Majestic Concrete |
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Posts: 32 06/15/08 10:17 AM |
does using those lighter dilutions help with the brush strokes?
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Posts: 240 06/15/08 12:02 PM |
Majestic - Lighter dilutions were used just because customer wanted lighter colors. I have never had a problem with brush strokes with ultrastone. Even on the hottest days, you should be able to color stones fast enough to not get brush strokes. It takes some time, but after you have stained for a while you get pretty good with a sponge brush and can be fast. As far as the taping, it is a wide based tape, but thats not the best way to do it. I actually made my first taped flagstone sample that way....I taped out the stones, then used a utility knife and cut the edges and it worked great. Didn't seem like it took very long at all. Then I sold a job that wanted this finish. I taped out some stones and me and a helper started cutting stones. After about an hour of doing this, we had gone thru about a dozen knife blades, and only done about 25 sq. ft. of area. SO, we had to figure out a better way. I used 1" tape on this job. I was able to stick one end of the tape on a pillar. Then, as I unrolled the tape I use a utility knife and go back and forth putting a "stone edge" on one side of the tape. Then you put the tape down, stone edge out one way, turn around and go the opposite way putting the "stone edge" out on the other side of the grout line, making sure to overlap the straight edge of the tape just a little. It's fairly fast and works good. Here's a pic of the process on another job...actually used 1 1/2" tape on this one and made 2 cuts on the sides, which left the middle as a perfect piece, and the sides ones I had to overlap on each other. 
Here's a teaser pic of that job 
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Posts: 33 06/15/08 12:39 PM |
When I usually have the brush stroke problem it is on hot days. No matter how fast I go I seem to get the problem. The only thing that I found that helps is
soon as i brush some on I instantly take a rag back across it. This usually eliminates most of them, but is just extra work constantly doing that. On cooler
days I don't have that problems. Maybe I just need more practice I guess.
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canu4see |
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Posts: 154 06/15/08 05:00 PM |
My dist. says diluting the us that much causes it to lose uv stability. Why not keep it 50/50 and use less pigment?
KKAL check your inbox. |
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premiercc |
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Posts: 33 06/15/08 07:59 PM |
Looks great. So what is your trick to stop bleed under the tape. Do you usually use the same color mix on your skip trowel as you do in your grout color. It look like on the patio pics they are not the same. |
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weeblewobble |
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Posts: 2 06/15/08 10:14 PM |
skim coat over your taped pattern with the same color as your grout then do your trowel down this drastically cuts down on bleeding
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KKAL1 |
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Posts: 241 06/19/08 08:58 PM |
PremierCC -
To stop bleeding under the tape I lock in the tape by painting over it. I like doing it this way for a couple of reasons. First, you don't have to wet the surface. I just use a wet mix ( 8 qts per bag) and paint it on over a dry substrate. This guarantees you get no bleeding. When you wet it to do a whole skim coat, you will get some bleeding, even though you are using the same color. Second, it doesn't take near as much material, and I do a complete trowel coat over it, so you can't tell it was painted. Canu4see - I use a standard mix of US Nuetral base (3oz color per gallon US base) to color for all my mixes diluted up to 15-1. Anything above 15-1 I double the US and leave the pigment the same. 50/50 sounds like severe overkill to me. I've had jobs down for over 5 years that have been re-sealed and have seen no UV fading. I personally think 50/50 is way too much, but you do it however you feel comfortable. Taped off another one of these today. 440 sq ft. Took me 5 hours to cut tape, put down, and roll down tight with a roller. Then 1 hour to paint over with matching color. 1 roll of 1 1/2" tape yielded about 250 sq ft of medium sized stones. I'm getting pretty fast at it now, probably have done over 3000 sq ft of this application now, so I've gotten faster at cutting and installing. Its a pain, but people really like the look. Kurt |
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